Is mylans fair ?

[YozShur4]

there are some rumors about administrators help some of clans ı hope it is not true . I called several of my friends to this game for fun .

[LCFDIVINE_nl]

[TejasPatel]

This is a very good question, and honestly something that has been playing on my mind for the last couple of months. I will share my experience or what I know, you decide for yourself.

1. Quests have been re-issued in the past to players to finish the 150 quests and the special offer. Now they are saying the policy has changed. When did this policy change? Was there an update on the WIKI or a message sent to the players? Is it a co-incidence that the player who was re-issued the quest had spent $ on the day of the special offer. While the player who was refused the re-issue of quest wanted to pay from the BG already in the account (received as a gift)?

2. The new players who were para-dropped on the UK Server (when the servers were merged) were given one level 3 artifact. The only inconvenience I could think of, is the change in the URL to access the game and their name being added with a suffix (Name change was not for all players). If there are any more please do let me know. Otherwise I am happy to receive a level 3 artifact for accessing the game from another URL and adding the sufix _UK to my name.

3. Players have received permanent bans for multi-boxing. But don't be surprised if the account is resurrected and active again. Why?
I will let your imagination take over on this point.

4. Do you believe that you should get what you have paid and/or worked hard for? If yes, then you are in for a big disappointment, the benefits or bonuses of magic items like scrolls and artifacts, have been changed (and going by the past trend will continue to change) those of the hero skills have been changed as well. So if you have worked hard on leveling up your hero and devising a strategy to suit your style of play, don't be surprised to wake up one fine day only to realize that all your efforts, time and money spent in the game has gone down the drain.

The answer to your question will be answered over the course of time you spend in the game. The only thing I can confirm on there is no certainty in this game even if you have paid or spent real $ in this game.

PS: Did you notice that the reply from the admin team does not have the option to be forwarded? I wonder why

[runquex]

I've always seen that the changes that make the game only benefit the stronger player, for example the grail.
in spanish server the admin answer is "have fun playing" for any question.
best regards

[Sp4rK]

Honestly, you said the turth, but to be frank, i don't think that admin will admit any of these, because it's much easier to say "it's just to have more fun",they only support big players (it's the reality), and let's face it , if someone plays on another server for just 1-6 months, and then because of the server emerge, they have the right to get a lev 3 artefact!!!!
I realy want to know what kind of "improvements" will have this game !!

[Arashi2013]

It was a inconvenience for the UK players, how much inconvenience could it have been for the players that was added in?

[Arbash]

@TejasPatel
1. Yes, the policy changed, because it turned out that the players were misusing us meeting them halfway. Since reissuing quests belonged to our internal policy (guidelines for supporters), we did not feel that there had to be any in-game notification for all players. The players who requested the reissue after the policy changed were advised that it was no longer possible. Your point about special offer is unclear.

2. The merged players changed their area, their cities got scattered away from each other, players from the same clan found themselves in completely different areas of the map which makes the interaction nearly impossible. Those are the inconveniences and not the URL.

3. This very question has been asked so many times. If an account is banned automatically, it is always banned for good. However the system is set very sensitive and one can get banned for the smallest breach. In that case the player can write to us and request the matter to be evaluated. If we see that the breach is minor, we can change the permanent ban to a temporar one.

4. The Administration reserves the right to introduce changes to the gameplay, if such are considered essential for further development of the game. The last change of artifacts made artifacts stronger than compared to the old ones. With that the price of new artifacts equals the price of the old artifacts. By far not the worst thing that could have happened

[fudge]

This is a very good question, and honestly something that has been playing on my mind for the last couple of months. I will share my experience or what I know, you decide for yourself.

2. The new players who were para-dropped on the UK Server (when the servers were merged) were given one level 3 artifact.

Which therefore completed the Really Sharp Sword quest (if not already completed of course) and were given another level 3 artifact as a reward for that.

[TejasPatel]

@Arbash

1. Why would the admin want to share an update or change in the policy which affects all players, selectively ? If the admin brings in a change to the policy, a policy which affects all players, shouldn't the same be communicated to all players...?
When the servers were merged - The players who joined us on the UK Server were informed well in advance - But the UK players were not informed till after the merger.

On the special offer - The quest was re-issued along with the special offer. So not only was the 150 Quest (For Helmet of Divine Wisdom) re-issued the special offer quest was also re-issued. This is what I am saying, not one but two quests got re-issued.

2. Which was taken care of by introducing the option to move cities within a week of the merger...
In my communication with the in-game admin, they admitted to the change having affected all players including those who were originally on the UK Server. So if you gave them a level 3 artifact why not give us a level 1 or level 2 artifact...?

3. Perhaps the same question is repeatedly asked because of lack of clarity on how the admin functions? The example that I am giving is of a player who was on a permanent ban for more than a month, I know because I robbed 35 crystals from that player . Now the player is active after more than 3 weeks of being banned.

4. Please do so, we all want a better game. I paid my way thru to get the Ally Patron set and now the benefits of those have changed. From 100% the incoming attack duration is now 20%. How does that make me stronger?
You say same price, well that's exactly the problem - Some new player will spend the same money that I did and will now have something better than me...How is that making me stronger...? In comparison - IT IS MAKING ME WEAKER with the same amount of money spent.
You could have simply retained the benefits and the price of Artifacts and introduced Ancient Artifacts for a 10 - 20% premium. This way the player who have paid money for what they want - get what they want or paid for. So yes, the worst that could have happened.

5. Would you like to add something to the last point I made? Why messages from admin cannot be shared internally in the game. If the rules and policy are same for all, then I guess the explanation provided would be same for all?
Actually NO - The admin has given different response to the same question by different players. I have now started archiving my conversations with the admin because when I raised this question - I was asked for PROOF.

[InquisitorJo_sk]

My lands is not fair. A lot of players from closing servers were moved to uk server without possibility be organized same as on closed servers. It is possible to move all cities now in this game. But in reality there is not more place on uk.server. Our cities ale all over the map absolutely non logic as before. I have a feelin then we were moved here just to be executed from players they were here befor us. And it is going now. I will not pay one penny more in this game, because in my opinion the administrators are not series. How can I know, then in the short future they will not closed another servers or all the game too?

[sliph]

@Arbash

1. Why would the admin want to share an update or change in the policy which affects all players, selectively ? If the admin brings in a change to the policy, a policy which affects all players, shouldn't the same be communicated to all players...?
When the servers were merged - The players who joined us on the UK Server were informed well in advance - But the UK players were not informed till after the merger.


On the special offer - The quest was re-issued along with the special offer. So not only was the 150 Quest (For Helmet of Divine Wisdom) re-issued the special offer quest was also re-issued. This is what I am saying, not one but two quests got re-issued.

Response: What are you frustrated about? That you want to have another shot at earning the Helmet of Divine Wisdom? That you don't get another chance to spend gems on trivial quests? That others are getting a second chance at spending gems for an offer that could be considered "buying the full version of the game" which you may or may not have already done?

2. Which was taken care of by introducing the option to move cities within a week of the merger...
In my communication with the in-game admin, they admitted to the change having affected all players including those who were originally on the UK Server. So if you gave them a level 3 artifact why not give us a level 1 or level 2 artifact...?

Response: Which server do you think has been around longer? Which would you say...has had more time to prepare? As you would say,

I will let your imagination take over on this point.

3. Perhaps the same question is repeatedly asked because of lack of clarity on how the admin functions? The example that I am giving is of a player who was on a permanent ban for more than a month, I know because I robbed 35 crystals from that player . Now the player is active after more than 3 weeks of being banned.

Response: Like an overlooked riddle wording, I believe you'd overlooked the option of not immediately sending a request to the admins for reprieve and logging into the portal and writing admin 3 weeks after you are banned. Possibly because you have had some time to consider things.

4. Please do so, we all want a better game. I paid my way thru to get the Ally Patron set and now the benefits of those have changed. From 100% the incoming attack duration is now 20%. How does that make me stronger?
You say same price, well that's exactly the problem - Some new player will spend the same money that I did and will now have something better than me...How is that making me stronger...? In comparison - IT IS MAKING ME WEAKER with the same amount of money spent.
You could have simply retained the benefits and the price of Artifacts and introduced Ancient Artifacts for a 10 - 20% premium. This way the player who have paid money for what they want - get what they want or paid for. So yes, the worst that could have happened.

Response: First time experiencing a game-play nerf bro?[/size]
Response: Secondly, your logic is entirely flawed: you say someone will pay SAME PRICE now for something WEAKER than what you bought it at. So HOW have you been hurt more than they? In fact, YOU would have benefited MORE than them because you actually got to use the item at the 100% strength. I think you are just upset because you don't like change. When you really take a few good minutes to look at the situation, you have nothing to complain about unless you just like to whine.

5. Would you like to add something to the last point I made? Why messages from admin cannot be shared internally in the game. If the rules and policy are same for all, then I guess the explanation provided would be same for all?
Actually NO - The admin has given different response to the same question by different players. I have now started archiving my conversations with the admin because when I raised this question - I was asked for PROOF.

Response: Because they most likely don't want people getting confused by FWDs of FWDs of FWDs of various ambiguous Admin emails and players using that to take advantage of others. ... Have you never taken a screen shot? If you really need to show an admin message there's methods... Ever heard of Lightshot?

[TejasPatel]

@Sliph: All your comments can be attributed to poor understanding of the EXAMPLES cited and points being made, may I please request you to re-read the entire conversation once again. Thank You.

To give an example of your misunderstanding - I said someone paying for the ally patron set now will get better benefits (in turn stronger) than what I paid for...

Old: Incoming attack 20%. Health +10%. Defense +10
New/Ancient: Incoming attack 30%. Health +12%. Defense +12

So the new players buying the set would be STRONGER than me...Paying the same price that I paid...

[FelipeNeto]

Admins reduced the price of artifacts so there's no way to compensate those who bought when prices were more expensive than now.

The changes reduced the value of slowdonw boots from 6 to 10 times and no compensation for those who had such artifacts. The hero skills like spell devotion and storm generator got also a big cut in its values... So your artifacts and hero skills can be almost useless in few months when admins decide to make a new update.

The recent merges and updates already proved that this game has no fairness!

[sliph]

@Sliph: All your comments can be attributed to poor understanding of the EXAMPLES cited and points being made, may I please request you to re-read the entire conversation once again. Thank You.

To give an example of your misunderstanding - I said someone paying for the ally patron set now will get better benefits (in turn stronger) than what I paid for...

Old: Incoming attack 20%. Health +10%. Defense +10
New/Ancient: Incoming attack 30%. Health +12%. Defense +12

So the new players buying the set would be STRONGER than me...Paying the same price that I paid...

You know that the price of Black Gems increased, right? So with $1.09::100BG you paid for the set at Old, now cost $1.33::100BG for Ancient set. (do math)
There is no option for a player now who wants to buy the set to choose "Old" for cheaper, which means you got it for cheaper.
Also, it is another way of adding more content to aspire to in the game. Like adding the tier 4 troops, did you not like that either?

[TejasPatel]

@Sliph...

Yes I am aware of the prices being increased. The admin had also sent a message informing us about the same. Their reason - Taxes.

Again re-read my previous comments - I am not against introducing new features / changes. I have also suggested how the Ancient Artifacts could have been introduced without taking away what people have paid for...

[sliph]

@TejasPatel

I am sensing a language barrier and that English is not your first language, so I will rest my case here as we seem to have a miscommunication and can't find the common ground to start at.

My bottom line is that your logic/math does not add up.

[TejasPatel]

@Sliph: OK Lets see how my math is and then you can comment on that as well..

Lets take the boots of slow down...a level 2 artifact from the ally patron set..

Cost of Old Artifact: 8,000 BG
Cost to make Ancient: 2,000 BG
Cost to players who purchased it before: 10,000 BG
New Cost of Ancient: 8000 BG
Incremental Cost of 2,000 BG in %: 25%

Cost of BG as given by you...
Old BG: 1.09
New BG: 1.33
Incremental Difference in % (1.33 - 1.09 / 1.09): 22%

So while the BG cost has gone up by 22% the artifact cost has gone up by 25%. So each artifact is now costing me 3% more

This does not factor the gap of over 9 months between increased price and introduction of ancient...If I had purchased the set in between the difference would be more than 3%...Because I would have not only purchased the BG @ new rate of 1.33 but would also now need to pay more BG to make them ancient...

I have purchased 2 sets...Thats 18 pieces...Average of 2000 per piece to make ancient is 36,000 BG...Convert it back in $$$s by the new rates as shared by you (1.33 for 100 BG)...is $ 478.8.

So the old players will need to shell out $478.8 more as compared to the players who buy ancient artifacts now.

[Nightchill]

The saying “In this world, you get what you pay for.” comes to mind.
Here, in the mylands world, this is not the case.
You get what you pay for.... only for a limited time

Change is good, I like much of what they've done in the past, but changing something you paid real money for is not good practice.
This is dishonest, and as you can see in this case has created a disloyal and frustrated customer. I can assure you he is not alone.

How would you feel if they suddenly allowed all of your cities buildings to be destroyed? So, all of that hard work and real money goes down the drain when a top 10 player wrecks you. I imagine a lot of people would change their mind on upgrading those buildings if this was the case.

I've said this before, and I will say it again...
Plenty of good ideas out there mentioned already.
To date none have been included to my limited knowledge